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GingerBawls t1_j6c1cbq wrote

Cops are worthless. This is what made you see that? Congratulation I guess


ZephyrInfernum t1_j6cqrkq wrote

Idk why you're downvoted. Cops are worthless. They show up after the fact. They're a clean up crew for crime


7SlotGrill t1_j6d8511 wrote

Exactly why I CCW, I can't fit a cop in my pocket.


bkemp1984Part2 t1_j6dft0a wrote

I doubt most down votes are for the first sentence they said, but for the fact that the next two are kind of dickish.


Chance-Ad4773 t1_j6i7wh5 wrote

So you're saying we need more cops on patrol then


ZephyrInfernum t1_j6iuwb4 wrote

Yes, I have argued for more cops to actually walk a beat. What they currently do is not what I would call patrolling. What's your point?

As they currently are, they're useless.


Chance-Ad4773 t1_j6j3xg3 wrote

Well I thought I was posting a "gotcha" because I also think there should be more cops on patrol but I guess we actually just agree and now I look like an asshole


militantrubberducky t1_j6df8bq wrote

By your logic so is the rest of the citizenry.


ZephyrInfernum t1_j6dibji wrote

The rest of the citizens aren't police paid to "protect" or "serve". They have no constitutional duty to actually do their jobs so why have them at all.

Police do not prevent crime.


militantrubberducky t1_j6dm6qo wrote

Aside from your disingenuous overgeneralization, the rest of the citizens aren't investigating crimes, aren't processing evidence, and aren't making arrests.


fractalflatulence t1_j6dj4zz wrote

They don’t prevent ALL crime. But they absolutely prevent crimes from occurring

There’s nuance that people like you deliberately ignore when you make statements like “police don’t prevent crime”.

This is why intelligent people don’t take comments like that, and the people making them, seriously.

I’m sure there’s some social reinforcement at play here for people like you making ideological arguments based on far reaching generalizations and convenient platitudes lacking in nuance.

I wonder what happens when the dopamine hit from posting basic-ass takes on Reddit fades away…


applebeesinthetrap t1_j6dyt4d wrote

I think "intelligent" people understand the nuance of the statement and read it as "the effect the police have is dramatically overestimated". Why are u trying to make this so personal lol


fractalflatulence t1_j6ewg2m wrote

There is no nuance in the statement. That’s the point.

Edit to add: How you don't see the irony in you defending a drastic underestimation of the value of policing on the grounds of an alleged overestimation of the value of policing is beyond me....


applebeesinthetrap t1_j6ezt45 wrote

What? Yes there is.. you said so yourself.

>There’s nuance that people like you deliberately ignore when you make statements like “police don’t prevent crime”.


fractalflatulence t1_j6f1ghe wrote

Serious question, did you hit your head?

I'm replying to the comment " **Cops are worthless** "

that has zero nuance..


applebeesinthetrap t1_j6f9szq wrote

Yeah sorry I am a bit slow.. thank you for being patient with me. I think we might have a misunderstanding..

Could you tell what the word nuance means here? Not the definition of it (I looked that up already don't understand!). But what you are talking about when you say it?

From this statement of yours >There’s nuance that people like you deliberately ignore when you make statements like “police don’t prevent crime”.

Edit: A better way to phrase my question is "what is the nuance that people are deliberately ignoring?"


fractalflatulence t1_j6daegz wrote

If only there were some social workers in that alley at 2:45am on a Sunday morning this all could’ve been prevented!


pcptornado11 t1_j6dc5mu wrote

Right on brother, let's go Brandon or something


fractalflatulence t1_j6dcxsd wrote

Sounds like you’re assuming some shit about me so that it’s easier for you to stomach the obvious point I made about crime prevention in the context of the post I was replying to. I voted for “Brandon”

Hit the bricks.


pcptornado11 t1_j6ddyej wrote

You made the same tired response that a particular crowd of people like to use anytime there's a violent crime committed. I voted for Brandon too, this isn't that serious.


fractalflatulence t1_j6de6zs wrote

Or i made a sarcastic comment in reply to a different tired ass response anytime there’s a crime…”Cops are useless!”

Ask yourself why my comment upset you so much you had to assume I’m a Republican.

Fucking Reddit, full of smooth brains


pcptornado11 t1_j6dew62 wrote

Right, but you can make a lot of assumptions about that tired comment. Sarcasm doesn't translate well in text.

It seems like only one of us is upset here and it certainly isn't me. I hope this doesn't ruin your day!


fractalflatulence t1_j6dfemm wrote

You can assume whatever you want as long as you’re willing to get called out for your wrong assumptions.

My day is far from ruined but thanks for your faux-concern, slick.

Don’t confuse me chiding you with name calling as me being upset, although I’m sure that’s an effective ego-protective mechanism for you.


pcptornado11 t1_j6dhoh5 wrote

It sure seems like you're upset. This isn't that serious. Have a better day!


ZephyrInfernum t1_j6djxou wrote

You say that to me as if I've ever argued for that that. I haven't. It's a nice strawman, though.

Do you know what I am in favor of for our city? Cops back on actual beats. They're being paid by our taxes to do a job. Arguably, right now they aren't doing that job. Traffic offenses left and right, pedestrians getting hit, a pervert creeper going around shouting he's the one doing it but police can't seem to apprehend, muggings in places that were previously safe...

Police, as they currently are by their design, are worthless. Cops sitting in cars at the back of lots waiting for calls (when the crime has already happened) do nothing to prevent crime by way of presence.


fractalflatulence t1_j6dkazh wrote

Definitely not a strawman. Sarcastic response to the implied meaning of the comment I replied to regarding cops and crime prevention

Next time articulate yourself intelligently and you won’t get a sarcastic reply.

Also, hard not to think you’re just backpedaling here since you posted elsewhere in the thread “why have them at all” and you appear to post in multiple anti-police subreddits

Imagine that…

But yes super funny that you’d double down that cops are worthless.

Kyle the college freshman, ladies and gentlemen.

Edit to add: how do you reconcile that the crime rate is down compared to when cops “walked the beat” so to speak?