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kgro t1_j2a97d3 wrote

The guy was with FSB, which means he’s been enjoying the power his agency has over the common citizens. He was a part of the organisation that is instrumental in the autocratic regime of Russia, but now suddenly he’s realised that his ass is on the line? Fuck that guy. Let him taste the taste of his own medicine


cyclefreaksix t1_j2a9ood wrote

He's about to get a taste of something...


Yardsale420 t1_j2abahi wrote

Lead and copper


rodclutcher101 t1_j2ac5kq wrote

Hot tungsten


Vladius28 t1_j2c5r86 wrote

That does not happen in Russian prisons!


Shurqeh t1_j2cy8lo wrote

The article is wrong, he wasn't FSB he was FGS (or FSO).

FGS pffocer who escaped Russia to Kazakhstan to be deported to home country Yearning for asylum

The difference? While the FSB, in addition to being the secret service, is basically running the mobilization and as such is exempt to it (which should be a good clue as to why this guy can't be FSB). The FGS, or Federal Guard Service, is involved in providing protection for politicians and controlling the nuclear briefcase.


kgro t1_j2cye1a wrote

This fact doesn’t change in the slightest my sentiment towards the guy. Fuck him


CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN t1_j2d0siy wrote

So what, all Russians are bad Russians now? The guy fled with his family because he knew war was coming, and he wanted no part of it (at least that's what it sounds like).


Main-Yoghurt5127 t1_j2fpo91 wrote

All Russians serving in state security agencies are bad? Yeah, pretty much.


kgro t1_j2d13pe wrote

No, he didn’t want to be part of meat send to the meat grinder. Make no mistake, he has joined the forces because he thought being a meat grinder will make him comfy.

My comment clearly did not address all Russians, only those, who chose to serve the position of power as long as they could enjoy better position at the expense of others. Fuck them!


GoofyKalashnikov t1_j2d6ffa wrote

That's how the world works? People enjoy a better position at the expense of others and i highly doubt you're ready to go live with some rural african tribes and give away all your current luxuries


kgro t1_j2d6sbf wrote

Yep, that’s how the world works — he makes morally questionable decisions and I am not obliged to feel sad for him paying the price for his decisions. Fuck him


GoofyKalashnikov t1_j2d7bw8 wrote

You say it like you know him personally and have a massive moral high ground lmfao


kgro t1_j2d7fv7 wrote

Dude, I know tons of people who have suffered from the system and FSB in particular. I don’t have to hold high mir ground to condemn anyone who is a part of that system. Fuck them all


ZippyDan t1_j2d7n7x wrote

But he is not FSB


kgro t1_j2d9buf wrote

He works for siloviki. This is the price of being part of that system. Fuck them


ZippyDan t1_j2ddjxx wrote

I think you're not thinking big enough.

Don't we want people to be abandoning the system? If enough people defect, hide, and rebel, this whole mess can be over sooner.

Don't let perfection be the enemy of good. In any evil system there is a range of leaders, supporters, and cogs: true evils, true believers, sycophants, opportunists, weak-minded and weak-willed sheep, uninformed and uneducated, etc.

It's not possible to ensure that all of those people get the justice they deserve, nor is it clear what justice the lower rungs of the system deserve. Think of Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan: many culpable people escaped punishment, but it was more important that the leadership face the music and that the system fall rather than hunting down every last pencil pusher that was indirectly responsible for the abuses of the system.

Trying to hold every last person accountable no matter how peripheral their involvement just encourages the system to linger longer, because every last beauraucrat and janitor becomes invested in the continued delay of accountability. Leaders have power and the ultimate responsibility, but they are nothing if the individual cogs of their empire melt away.


kgro t1_j2dkz45 wrote

No, I am not holding him accountable. I just don’t feel compassion for him being thrown to die back to the system that he served that has led to demise of many innocent victims. Fuck him


ZippyDan t1_j2dlzuo wrote

It's not about feeling sorry. It's about the message it sends. My point is that he serves as an example to others who might want to flee. The more failures there are, the more these low-level cogs will feel trapped, and therefore desperate to see the regime pull off a win.


StannisG t1_j2bwfsa wrote

He’s going to taste defenestration with a side of hotel window and a sprinkle of concrete.


CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN t1_j2d0m0i wrote

> Zhilin was a shift supervisor in the special communications and information department of the FSB in the Siberian Federal District and was responsible for Putin's communications with the regions.

He sounds low level. idk if he was a "bad guy", but one thing is for sure; Russia will torture him to death and then try and get his wife and kids returned so they can be tortured to death.


AfterDusk t1_j2c36og wrote

I don't think the article specifies which part of the FSB he was in. He might have not been in the intelligence/state surveillance arm. He could very well have been in the border patrol/coast guard. Bottom line is it is unclear if he enjoyed or was part of the exploitation of the common citizens.


nuttyalmond t1_j2cctu8 wrote

It does. You just didn't read it.


AfterDusk t1_j2cdwlc wrote

Yeah found it. I missed that part. Thank you for the heads up!


kgro t1_j2cn8dd wrote

Joining FSB means he wanted to enjoy the privileged position. The price of that is much higher then he thought


baron_von_helmut t1_j2bi2tq wrote

Says something about their ability to get willing bodies to the meat grinder.


Sunchild381 t1_j2czfvc wrote

Initially felt sorry for him,rrad your post, changed my mind.. Send him to the front!